Homosexuality


Can the love between two people ever be an abomination?

Is the chasm separating gays and lesbians and Christianity too wide to cross?

Is the Bible an excuse to hate?

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                           10 Love does no harm to a neighbor.                               Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

Romans 13:10


For the Intolerant

46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.                                                                   Matthew 5:46-48


7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard. 8 Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and in you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining.

9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister[b] is still in the darkness. 10 Anyone who loves their brother and sister[c] lives in the light, and there is nothing in them to make them stumble. 11 But anyone who hates a brother or sister is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness. They do not know where they are going, because the darkness has blinded them. 
1 John 2:7-11


The beginning of love is to let those we love be perfectly themselves, and not to twist them to fit our own image. Otherwise we love only the reflection of ourselves we find in them.                                                                                          Thomas Merton


For the Self Righteous 

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.                                 1 John 1:8-10

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A Conservative's Favorite Passage:

***"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; 

such thing is an abomination."

Leviticus 18:22


***The Word of God well understood and religiously obeyed is the shortest route to spiritual perfection. And we must not select a few favorite passages to the exclusion of others. Nothing less than a whole Bible can make a whole Christian.

Aiden Wilson Tozer


Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/aidenwilso153969.html#WcGbcyxwSOKbGMSI.99 

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For the Bible tells me so.

Through the experiences of five very normal, very Christian, very American families -- including those of former House Majority Leader Richard Gephardt and Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson -- we discover how insightful people of faith handle the realization of having a gay child. Informed by such respected voices as Bishop Desmond Tutu, Harvard's Peter Gomes, Orthodox Rabbi Steve Greenberg and Reverend Jimmy Creech, FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO offers healing, clarity and understanding to anyone caught in the crosshairs of scripture and sexual identity. 



THIS I KNOW

Across the country, by this powerful film on homosexuality and the church.  Now, this by nationally recognized authorities provides you with even more in-depth guidance through this controversial topic.



The West Wing Bible Study Lesson

TEXT of The West Wing Bible Study

Speech from "The Midterms" 
Written by: Aaron Sorkin   
A talk show host defends calling homosexuality an "abomination" by saying that that is what the Bible says in Leviticus 18:22 (That verse, by the way, reads: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such thing is an abomination.") This annoys President Bartlet who proceeds to ask a few pointed questions about just what one should accept from the Bible. Exodus 21:7 


"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do."  
"I'm interested in selling my youngest daughter into slavery as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. She's a Georgetown sophomore, speaks fluent Italian, always cleaned the table when it was her turn. What would a good price for her be?" 

Exodus 35:2 
"On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the sabbath of complete rest to the LORD. Anyone who does work on that day shall be put to death."
"My chief of staff, Leo McGarry, insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly says he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself or is it okay to call the police?"


Leviticus 11 
7and the pig, which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud and is therefore unclean for you. 
8Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they are unclean for you."
"Here's one that's really important cause we've got a lot of sports fans in this town: touching the skin of a dead pig makes one uncleanLeviticus 11:7  If they promise to wear gloves can the Washington Redskins still play football? Can Notre Dame? Can West Point?"

Does the whole town really have to be together to stone my brother, John, for planting different crops side by side?

Can I burn my mother in a small family gathering for wearing garments made from two different threads?"

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Think about those questions, would you?" Note: the above references are from The New American Bible Translated from the original Languages with Critical Use of All the Ancient Sources by Members of the Catholic Biblical Association of America Copyright 1970. This "New Catholic" Bible wouldn't have been what Bartlet grew up with but might have been the Bible he read cover to cover.

Referring to the above as "Bartlet's Quotations" is not something we can claim as our idea. It was sent to us by Sonnie Swenston. We wish we had thought of it!

TEXT of The West Wing Bible Study

For Everyone Born, a Place at the Table


Sung by the Choir and Congregation of First Plymouth Church, Lincoln Nebraska on November 10, 2013. firstplymouth.org




The Sin of Sodom and Gomorrah

(It may not be what you think it is!)

 49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

    Ezekiel 16:49New International Version (NIV)

 

Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. Ezekiel 16:49 - King James Version (KJV)

 

49 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy.  - Ezekiel 16:49  Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)

 

14 And among the prophets of Jerusalem
I have seen something horrible:
They commit adultery and live a lie.
They strengthen the hands of evildoers,
so that not one of them turns from their wickedness.
They are all like Sodom to me;
the people of Jerusalem are like Gomorrah.”

Jeremiah 23:14

New International Version (NIV)

 

Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust,[a] serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

Jude 1:7

New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

Judgment Pronounced on Sodom

16 Then the men set out from there, and they looked toward Sodom; and Abraham went with them to set them on their way. 17 The Lord said, “Shall I hide from Abraham what I am about to do, 18 seeing that Abraham shall become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?[d] 19 No, for I have chosen[e] him, that he may charge his children and his household after him to keep the way of the Lord by doing righteousness and justice; so that the Lord may bring about for Abraham what he has promised him.” 

 

20 Then the Lord said, “How great is the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah and how very grave their sin! 21 I must go down and see whether they have done altogether according to the outcry that has come to me; and if not, I will know.”

 

22 So the men turned from there, and went toward Sodom, while Abraham remained standing before the Lord.[f]23 Then Abraham came near and said, “Will you indeed sweep away the righteous with the wicked? 24 Suppose there are fifty righteous within the city; will you then sweep away the place and not forgive it for the fifty righteous who are in it? 25 Far be it from you to do such a thing, to slay the righteous with the wicked, so that the righteous fare as the wicked! Far be that from you! Shall not the Judge of all the earth do what is just?” 26 And theLord said, “If I find at Sodom fifty righteous in the city, I will forgive the whole place for their sake.” 27 Abraham answered, “Let me take it upon myself to speak to the Lord, I who am but dust and ashes. 28 Suppose five of the fifty righteous are lacking? Will you destroy the whole city for lack of five?” And he said, “I will not destroy it if I find forty-five there.” 29 Again he spoke to him, “Suppose forty are found there.” He answered, “For the sake of forty I will not do it.” 30 Then he said, “Oh do not let the Lord be angry if I speak. Suppose thirty are found there.” He answered, “I will not do it, if I find thirty there.” 31 He said, “Let me take it upon myself to speak to the Lord. Suppose twenty are found there.” He answered, “For the sake of twenty I will not destroy it.”

 

 32 Then he said, “Oh do not let the Lord be angry if I speak just once more. Suppose ten are found there.” He answered, “For the sake of ten I will not destroy it.” 33 And the Lord went his way, when he had finished speaking to Abraham; and Abraham returned to his place.

Footnotes:

  1. Genesis 18:1 Heb him
  2. Genesis 18:1 Or terebinths
  3. Genesis 18:6 Heb seahs
  4. Genesis 18:18 Or and all the nations of the earth shall bless themselves by him
  5. Genesis 18:19 Heb known
  6. Genesis 18:22 Another ancient tradition reads while the Lord remained standing before Abraham


Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed

 

19 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”

“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”

But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 

 

Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing.

 

Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

“Get out of our way,” they replied. “This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

10 But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. 11 Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door.

12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because weare going to destroy this place. The outcry to the Lordagainst its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”

14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry[a] his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the Lord is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.

15 With the coming of dawn, the angels urged Lot, saying, “Hurry! Take your wife and your two daughters who are here, or you will be swept away when the city is punished.”

16 When he hesitated, the men grasped his hand and the hands of his wife and of his two daughters and led them safely out of the city, for the Lord was merciful to them.17 As soon as they had brought them out, one of them said, “Flee for your lives! Don’t look back, and don’t stop anywhere in the plain! Flee to the mountains or you will be swept away!”

18 But Lot said to them, “No, my lords,[b] please! 19 Your[c]servant has found favor in your[d] eyes, and you[e] have shown great kindness to me in sparing my life. But I can’t flee to the mountains; this disaster will overtake me, and I’ll die. 20 Look, here is a town near enough to run to, and it is small. Let me flee to it—it is very small, isn’t it? Then my life will be spared.”

21 He said to him, “Very well, I will grant this request too; I will not overthrow the town you speak of. 22 But flee there quickly, because I cannot do anything until you reach it.” (That is why the town was called Zoar.[f])

23 By the time Lot reached Zoar, the sun had risen over the land. 24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.

27 Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the Lord. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.

29 So when God destroyed the cities of the plain, he remembered Abraham, and he brought Lot out of the catastrophe that overthrew the cities where Lot had lived.

Genesis 19:1-29

New International Version (NIV)

 Footnotes:

a.     Genesis 19:14 Or were married to

b.    Genesis 19:18 Or No, Lord; or No, my lord

c.     Genesis 19:19 The Hebrew is singular.

d.    Genesis 19:19 The Hebrew is singular.

e.     Genesis 19:19 The Hebrew is singular.

f.       Genesis 19:22 Zoar means small.




WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY IS THE "WORST" OF ALL ABOMINATIONS
AND SINS? Rick Renner

What is Detestable to God?

What does God Hate?  

There are six things the Lord hates,
    seven that are detestable to him:
17         haughty eyes,
        a lying tongue,
        hands that shed innocent blood,
18         a heart that devises wicked schemes,
        feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19         a false witness who pours out lies
        and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

Proverbs 6:16


Marriage Equality

A Pastor Asks A Politician Why He Supports Gay Marriage.  It Seems He Wasn't Prepared For His Reply.

Marriage is Not about religion.
Atheists marry. 

Marriage is Not about Procreation. 
The infertile marry. 

Marriage IS Not about finance. 
It can weave poverty. 

Marriage is about Love. 
That’s it! 
And that’s beautiful.

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First, the GOP came for Minority Voting Rights,
and I said, "I am not a minority, it does not affect me." 

Then, the GOP came for Women's Reproductive Rights,
and I said, "I am not a woman, it does not affect me." 

Then, the GOP came for Gay and Lesbian Equal Rights,
and I said, "I am neither gay nor lesbian, it does not affect me." 

Then, the GOP came for Muslims' First Amendment Rights,
and I said, "I am not a Muslim, it does not affect me." 

Then, the GOP came for Welfare, Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security and I said, 
"I am not poor, it does not affect me." 

And then the GOP came for my rights, 
and there was no one left who had the right to stop them."





While the vast majority of Americans consider themselves unprejudiced, many of us unintentionally make snap judgments about people based on what we see—whether it’s race, age, gender, religion, sexuality, or disability. The Love Has No Labels campaign challenges us to open our eyes to our bias and prejudice.

Love has NO Labels

Love Has No Labels, a PSA from the Ad Council, shows how diverse love is and encourages people to overcome their prejudices. Couples were encouraged to kiss behind a screen that automatically converted their body image into skeletons.






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